Today’s Question: What Was Your Reaction to Obama’s Re-election?
Bill Quick

This came up in the comment thread to another post, when I mentioned that Obama’s re-election had devastated me and – I’ll add here – demoralized me as well.

In my case, although in the back of my mind (though I did mention it prior to the election) was the knowledge that FDR had won  re-election three times in terrible economic conditions, and I worried that Barack Obama might be in a similar situation.  As it turned out, I was right to worry, but I discounted my own misgivings based on more than half a century’s worth of evidence that Americans wouldn’t re-elect presidents they felt were responsible (the man in charge) for a bad economy.

So when Obama was re-elected, I was gob-smacked.  And in many ways I still am – because if Obama is the new FDR, then Americans have become the New Stupids.  We’ve been there before, and we know how it turned out – Leviathan was born and fed under Roosevelt, and we’ve been struggling with it ever since.  This last election was perhaps the only (slender) chance we had of slowing it – though even prior to the election, I didn’t think there was any possibility of actually stopping or reversing its growth.

So I guess I felt – and still feel – betrayed by the American people who, it seems to me, have become mostly greedy, gutless pussies all too willing to trade their liberties – and their wallets, their childrens’ futures – for a mess of security that does not, and can not, exist, nor, at that price, can possible be deserved.

I’m still trying to drag myself out of my funk.  My usual way of accomplishing that is to push myself to work harder – but this method doesn’t seem as effective to me as it might once have.  I look back on more than 40 thousand posts here over more than a decade, I look at the E-P.com site I started to help myself and others prepare for hard times three years ago, I look at the book I’ve been working hard on for more than two years, and I look at the new social-media cultural change site I’ve started at Memelicker.com, and I think to myself, “All this, and for what?  The suicidal idiots still re-elected the most destructive President since FDR, and maybe ever.”

I have to admit I am much inclined to take JD’s advice and simply say “Fuck it, let it burn,” and continue with my personal preparations for the fire to come.  But that doesn’t really solve the problem for me, either.  I’ve been a fighter all my life, and I’ve never worried much about the size or power of my opponent.  So just walking away from this doesn’t sit as well as it could, either.

I’m trying to work my way through it.  How about you?  How did you feel after Obama got re-elected?  How are you handling it?  What are your plans for the future?

Let’s talk about it.

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I am a small-l libertarian. My primary concern is to increase individual liberty as much as possible in the face of statist efforts to restrict it from both the right and the left. If I had to sum up my beliefs as concisely as possible, I would say, "Stay out of my wallet and my bedroom," "your liberty stops at my nose," and "don't tread on me." I will believe that things are taking a turn for the better in America when married gays are able to, and do, maintain large arsenals of automatic weapons, and tax collectors are, and do, not.

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Today’s Question: What Was Your Reaction to Obama’s Re-election? — 24 Comments

  1. As the results came in on election night, my wife was aghast. She could not believe that people were that stupid. “Don’t they see what he’s doing to the country?!” As for me, I was much more sanguine about it because I had figured that it was more or less likely to happen. The only question for me was whether or not the state polls or the national polls would prove more reliable. If the latter, Romney would win a squeaker. Sadly, it was the former.

    You know how I’m dealing with it? I used to mostly leave my lefty friends alone in their cocoons. Now, though, whenever they mention how fabulous Barry is, or the great things he’s done, I punch them in the face. Rhetorically, of course; I don’t want to go to jail. And my formerly apolitical Facebook postings have become, umm, more pointed. Also my responses to the liberals who reply back to me. Frankly, I consider it open season on lefties now, with no limit in sight. The more I horrify and upset, the happier I’ll be.

  2. I was pissed at the Republican Party, the MSM, most of my relatives, and the world. Well, relatives are who you are born with so I continue to try to educate them, the world exists without me and there is little I can do there, the MSM I can, and do, call out on their Obamalove( to no apparent avail, but it makes me feel better), and, as for the Republican Party, fuck’em. I will devote time and money to any campaign that shares my values, all of my values. If I cannot find such a campaign I will work to disrupt all the others.
    In the meantime I will continue to stock up of all the little things that enable my family to hold together(beans , brass, copper, lead, etc.)
    Cheer up Mr. Quick. in the sweet bye-and-bye we will all be “free at last”.

  3. Well, I see a Marxist doing Marxist things and I set about preparing to do the work that the Republicans never did–defeat the commies here in our own borders. We had the tools to do that for decades–defund them, destroy their power base, deprive them of our children’s minds–and instead, Bush I,II etc empowered them.

    My decades long thought– ‘We are not the same people’ –regarding the Ruling Class and myself hardened. I don’t even pretend at comity anymore.

    I agree with Bob-Owens and Anne Barnhardt, we are a people preparing for war. If it goes hot, I have a special place in my cold, dead heart for the Republicans side of the Ruling Class.

  4. Two days before the election, I had a intuiton of impending doom. So I was not at all surprised. Disgusted, angry, depressed, and generally discouraged, but not surprised.
    I have begun the process of preparing. Not for my community, but for my family.
    Over the last few years I have worked in various ways to further my community. I still will, but without the energy I once had. That is going into personal and family preparations.

  5. The election collapsed a lot of assumptions I had about our country. Surely, after four disastrous years, anyone would be able to see BO for the ignorant, destructive, anti-American hustler that he is? Well, no, actually. On Nov 6th, I realized that this is no longer the nation I was born into. To have my own President hating on me because I’m a self-sufficient, non-socialist white man is real culture shock, almost unbelievable. My mood cycles through anger, depression, and resignation. In reply to the intertwined topic, since November I pay less attention to National Review and more attention to sites like this. DP is kinda homely and slow, but I love the realism.

  6. The right is just as crazy as the left. Typical comment from here:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/05/with-young-voters-republicans-must-give-up-on-social-issues-or-give-up-altogether-poll-data-suggests/#

    Obama did not win because Romney was too conservative, Romney lost because he was not conservative enough.

    So not only did the left want Obama to win. The right did too.

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    And this is what kills them, because conservatives always look at young voters like the hot girl they could never date.” He read aloud from the text: “1.25 million more young people supported Obama in 2012 over 2008.”

    from: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/magazine/can-the-republicans-be-saved-from-obsolescence.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

  7. We had a choice in the election between the Progressive Right and the Progressive Left. The Progressive won. I had the great satisfaction of helping the Libertarians to their greatest vote total ever. I live in Illinois. I had a “free” vote.

  8. I wasn’t at all disappointed that Olectionthief “won” again. I want the destruction of both the Democrats as a party and the Republicans as a party and his “victory” in 2012 helped push both along. More pointedly, neither White Obama nor Half-white Obama was going to do anything to stop the destruction of out-of-control spending and ever-increasing centralization of power and undermining of freedom and independence. In the current one-party system the destruction is unstoppable, probably, so I want it to come crashing down rather than grinding down so we can build better from the mess. Also, the longer it’s delayed, the worse it’ll be, so I want it to be as soon as possible.

    All that said, I felt some disorientation the day after the election. I believed the polls showing White Obama as likely to win. But then the reports of, shall we say, questionable election practices started coming in and now I’m pretty sure the election was stolen.

  9. By the way, I’m still prepping as best I can not hoarding at all because hoarders are preppers and preppers are survivalists and survivalists are evil and probably racist. I mean, raaaaaacist.

    I’ve worked out a way of going Galt which doesn’t involve suspiciously dropping out and which allows me to support my family with no legally questionable activity at all. I’m working on a contract which is paid by the federal government, meaning that I’m contributing nothing at all to the economy. I work as much overtime as I can wangle, figuring that even if I pay more taxes, it’s still taking money from the government, which I can put into the supplies I’m not hoarding.

  10. After the first debate I thought Romney had it. After the second election I thought it must be obvious how biased the MSM and that would sway a few more real independents. I was wrong or at least too hopeful (hope is not a hedge).

    Looking back I take away three things:

    1. Romney was the worst candidate to run. He couldn’t take on Obama on Obamacare. There was no indication he was fiscally conservative. C’mon 100bn spending cuts when the deficits are north of 1 trillion? He played right into the class warfare meme. He ran as milquetoast. The only time he surged was when he took the gloves off. That was like 2 days in September, unfortunately (and of course when battling his fellow Republicans).

    2. There was rampant vote fraud. Not only that but because of Obama’s tech edge they knew exactly where they needed to votes to capture key states. They sabotaged the GOPs tech as well which meant any counter to the fraud was non-existent. I’m surmising that they not only conjured voted for Obama, they lost or flipped votes for Romney to the void or for Obama. Witness the early voting machine “malfunctions” which always “malfunctioned” to Obama’s favor. Unexpectedly.

    3. Despite that Obama got millions less votes in 2012 than in 2008. That’s the official numbers too which means the fraud mentioned in 2 above makes the gap wider.

    That last point is key to how I carry on. Hammering Obama took its toll. Bill, your effort here at DP had to help. This what we have to do in 2014 and 2016. Keep hammering. Persuade some more millions that Obama and his policies are the problem. Make them understand that the RINOs are not an alternative, just Commie-lite. Show them a third way.

    The window to avoid disaster and bloodshed (internal or external) is closed. For my children’s same I hope we are prepared to set up a new capitalist, free market, natural rights system based on liberty and freedom out of the rubble and ashes. The alternative is tyrannical fascism borne out of Progressive ideology, the virus that has infected the US since 1900 if not before. Let not America be the land of Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Carter and Obama. Let it be the land of Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Coolidge and Reagan.

  11. My initial reaction? “We’re doomed.” After a couple of days of real doom and gloom, I decided the only thing I could do, for myself and family, was to just maintain as low a profile as I could, for as long as I could. Considering that I’m probably already on several lists (NRA life member, veteran, Soldier of Fortune subscriber, etc.), I doubt that’ll last very long at all, but….

    Then the Marxists went after the 2A, hammer and tongs. I admit I expected it, just not that quickly. I’ve raised my Facebook profile considerably, lately, on that topic, and have started taking Physics Geek’s attitude toward liberals, myself…although I’m not nearly as good as I’ve seen him be. Although I still have a little hope, I really don’t believe we can avoid what’s coming down the road. The first time you used the phrase, “Winter is coming,” Bill, I knew exactly what you meant, and ugly won’t even be close to describing that reality.

  12. A comment:

    Now their philosophy and policies are God-awful, not supported by any reasonable source, filled with hate and selfishness and holier-than-thou know-it-allism.

    From: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/magazine/can-the-republicans-be-saved-from-obsolescence.html?comments#permid=393

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    The Republican Brand is not just tarnished. It is toxic. There is a place I hang out where I can meet these kinds of Republicans every day. Filled with hate and holier-than-thou know-it-allism. It will be at least 10 years – maybe 20 before they are gone. And another 10 or 20 after that to revive the brand.

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    What will/is killing the Democrats is arithmetic. The best thing I can see to do under the circumstances is to give them everything they want. Let them die under the weight of their policies. Democrat super majorities in Illinois and California give me hope. Why? They are making promises that can’t possibly be kept. The same with our President.

  13. All the major cultural and media outlets are leftist propaganda tools. (As the culture has become so degraded and allies will be needed, maybe being hostile to the socons isn’t a bright idea.) In the interest of left elite power, the semi-capitalist economy is being destroyed so that centralized control is easier to pull off. That’s the synopsis of the last 50 years. The process is now almost complete. The system seeks to own you, and practically does. Obummer is merely dragging the remnants of what we were into the incinerator.
    Revolution in some form against the machine is coming. As I’m on the government teat due to disability, I should be on the side that signs my checks, but the coming economic implosion will turn the dollar into Weimar- or Zimbabwe-style funny money. And if there is to be any safety net worth the name, wouldn’t you rather have the freedom, low taxes and low regulations that fills the gov’t coffers? Not if you’re a naturally superior socialist supergenius, I guess.

    • rich,

      You are aware of the grass roots “libertarians out of the party” movement aren’t you? Kind of intolerant don’t you think? Not to mention stupid. If allies are needed.

      There is a large enough majority to deal with fiscal issues. But if you aren’t aboard with “gays are evil” and “dope is evil” and “America is a Christian country” and “abortion is evil and we need government to do something” and all the rest you are unwelcome.

      Well OK. If the social issues are more important than the economics issues I’ll take that position as well. Except in opposition.

  14. Not really surprised. I’ve always had the opinion that the America that we once knew could have survived an Obama presidency, however, the America that we grew up in, dead and gone as it is, would never be revived from the fact that there was an Obama presidency in the first place. The leftist agenda is too deeply embedded into the major institutions of American life to be overcome in less than multiple generations. In many ways, I’m of the opinion of “Let it burn.” I support a few pet projects (mostly dog related), I boycott buying stuff from blue states when I’m able and let the purveyor know why (recently cancelled my standing order from Peet’s coffee due to Feinstein’s bill). I continue research on personal survival matters (just bought the book “A Failure of Civility” recently reviewed by Matt Bracken at Western Rifle Shooters Association). I’ve recently hooked up with a husband of a friend of my wife’s who custom builds sniper rifles for the Marines who also has a private shooting range that goes up to 1500 yard targets so I’ll have an opportunity to have some fun. I stack ammo, silver, and storage food as I’m able. Take the dogs and the wife for walks when the weather is good. And love reading on my paper white Kindle. Simply stated, my store of outrage is exhausted.

  15. I was highly disappointed when Obama was elected to a second term. I’m just reminded of a quote from H.L. Mencken: “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

  16. Jim, your comment reminded me of something I said to my wife after Teh Won got reelected: “These are the voters of summer and winter is coming.” I swear that while my pain is likely to increase as times get really, really hard, I will take great joy in the dumbfounded expressions on the faces of lefties as the world crumbles around them. Reality is hard enough, but it’s a lot harder when you live as though it doesn’t exist. Schaedenfreude is not sufficient to describe what my reaction will like.

  17. PG, I just hope that you (and I) aren’t too busy scrambling to survive to enjoy their agony. I do have a place to go when the SHTF, but Step 1 involves crossing the Missouri River…and there are only four bridges that I know of that cross it (without driving to Kansas City). If I can manage to get across before the blockades start, things will be just a bit easier for me and my wife. If not, we’ll have to stand our ground, and that will be very…unpleasant.

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