At Hot Gas: Another Farting Scream of Trapped Poop
Bill Quick

Concerned citizens rally in support of … Dorner? « Hot Air

That comment about not having any intention of bringing Dorner in alive was another common theme, and one which I saw reflected in my Twitter timeline many times through the final couple of days of the manhunt. It’s also one of the ones that I find the most confounding.

The idea that law enforcement officials were somehow “hunting down” Dorner with the specific intention of killing him should be obviously preposterous on its face.

At any point in this saga, Dorner could have put down his weapons and walked into a police station with his hands up and he’d have been taken into custody without further incident. But by the same token, the police weren’t going to blindly wander around while searching for someone who had already shot several of their fellow officers without being prepared for the worst.

Yeah, right, preposterous. Which is why cops were hosing down pickups loaded with old Asian paper delivery ladies, and why, when Dorner was trapped with no means of escape, they burned his cabin down around him.

What little respect I had for Jazz Shaw and his fellatory love affair with police statist authority just vanished.  Although it’s instructive to see the reflexive authoritarian chumps on “our side” self-identify.

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I am a small-l libertarian. My primary concern is to increase individual liberty as much as possible in the face of statist efforts to restrict it from both the right and the left. If I had to sum up my beliefs as concisely as possible, I would say, "Stay out of my wallet and my bedroom," "your liberty stops at my nose," and "don't tread on me." I will believe that things are taking a turn for the better in America when married gays are able to, and do, maintain large arsenals of automatic weapons, and tax collectors are, and do, not.

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  1. …Dorner could have put down his weapons and walked into a police station with his hands up and he’d have been taken into custody without further incident…

    Anyone who actually believes that is undoubtedly self-delusional about many other things as well.

    Dorner – as he quite likely well-realized, after only a short time if not at the very beginning of his “saga”; he may have been crazy (may have been -), but he wasn’t apparently altogether stupid – had gone too far, of course. Had he attempted to surrender, as Shaw states, if he hadn’t been “killed while resisting arrest”, he’d have died soon after “while attempting to escape”, or while “assaulting officers”, or some such. It’s highly unlikely he’d have made it to/through a preliminary arraignment, miraculous if he actually reached trial.

    Plus (and he undoubtedly realized this, as well) consider what he would have faced in any sort of jail/prison. He’d have had nothing but enemies, both the law-enforcement people and prisoners just like the criminals he’d helped to arrest and incarcerate when he was a cop. If one bunch didn’t kill him, the other one would – maybe both, in combination.

    Yes, they were “hunting” for him – just like he was “hunting” for them. Both sides doubtless understood – there was a small war going on, one in which surrender was not a valid option for either side.

    More self-delusion by Shaw:

    If you have complaints with the methods and potential abuses of the police department, bring them forward in the press and in the courts.

    That’s been tried, and is being tried, a lot – ever-increasingly these days, it seems, and based on a widening range of matters. However, it doesn’t appear to be working too well; most of the time, it’s not apparently working at all, to either stop or even decrease the abuses or the “methods” that leave people beaten, wounded, crippled, dead and/or jailed/imprisoned on false or incorrectly-applied charges.

    Anyone – writing for Hot Venting or otherwise – who claims otherwise is either self-delusional, hasn’t been paying attention or simply loves “law enforcement” no matter what they do.

  2. Although it’s instructive to see the reflexive authoritarian chumps on “our side” …

    I’m afraid most of our fellow citizens are “reflexive authoritarian chumps”, including law enforcement, national guard, and regular military. They may feel uncomfortable, but in the end they will follow orders, no matter how distasteful. See this cynical view in Stefan Molyneux’s video Will America Descend into Civil War?, about 30 mins. in. I also commend his website http://www.freedomainradio.com.